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I think we should change the function of the "Self-harm" forum to be a forum of general addictions...

Since cutting or doing other self-harm is an addiction - why not add it to a multipul other serious addictions that could be discussed (i.e. porn addicted, shop-lifting addiction, etc)...

all addictions which could inturn be damaging to yourself (both mentally and perhaps physically)...



so what do you think?



the only really iffy one would be drug addictions...that forum (as i have states millions of times) doesn't really seem fit for stopping addictions - so that could be put in this improved forum...



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I donno because self-harm doesn't start out as an addiction, it gradually forms into one. So, if someone started to self-harm and they wanted some advice on that... I don't think it would fit into "addiction." You know what I'm saying? Maybe Addiction can be a new seperate forum place.
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that makes sence - i was thinking of it in that sence persay either....

umm i dunno if it would make a good forum in it self - it could be...

i mean if others think it would make a good forum then im in favor of it - but i think if we reword some of the forums' description we can utilize space for such as addictions

(i hope that makse sence)



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Noooo. I can't see that working. The addictions you mention (and many more besides) are all very different. Categorising them together would not be helpful and would trivalise some of them.



The SI forum is used a great deal, and is a safe place for people to go to talk about it. Putting extras into the forum would not be fair on those users.



Shop lifting, porn, etc can be talked about in the general forum. I have honestly never seen enough talk of these things to warrant a whole new forum.



As for drug addiction - I agree that the drug forum needs to become a little more biased towards not using drugs. It needs to stay open minded, possibly giving safety advice in extreme cases, but I feel we need to discourage use, not openly send out the message thats its okay to use drugs - its not (it harms yourself and others, its illegal, need I say more?).



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Originally posted by Lena@Oct 28 2005, 05:27 PM

Noooo. I can't see that working. The addictions you mention (and many more besides) are all very different. Categorising them together would not be helpful and would trivalise some of them.



The SI forum is used a great deal, and is a safe place for people to go to talk about it. Putting extras into the forum would not be fair on those users.



Shop lifting, porn, etc can be talked about in the general forum. I have honestly never seen enough talk of these things to warrant a whole new forum.



As for drug addiction - I agree that the drug forum needs to become a little more biased towards not using drugs. It needs to stay open minded, possibly giving safety advice in extreme cases, but I feel we need to discourage use, not openly send out the message thats its okay to use drugs - its not (it harms yourself and others, its illegal, need I say more?).



My thoughts.



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yeah i see what you mean - i just thought it could be a good place to talk about addictions and such - but i do see your pt, hun...



the drug forum arguement has been around for many many ages...but in the end it always comes down to that in the sexsexsex forum we don't preach abstinance - we talk openly - and the drug forum should be the same too (i am nuetral on this logic)



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Originally posted by SirPostAlot+Oct 29 2005, 03:34 AM--
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yeah i see what you mean - i just thought it could be a good place to talk about addictions and such - but i do see your pt, hun...



the drug forum arguement has been around for many many ages...but in the end it always comes down to that in the sexsexsex forum we don't preach abstinance - we talk openly - and the drug forum should be the same too (i am nuetral on this logic)



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What I don't understand is why we base the running of the drug forum on the 'Sex sex sex' forum. Sex and drugs are very different things. Drugs kill, sex doesn't.



Taking drugs is against the law. So too is having underage sex. I find we often forget that giving some advice in the 'Sex sex sex' forum breaks the law. Telling young girls of 14/15 how to have sex is not something we should be doing anymore than telling people how to obtain/take drugs.



We should treat every forums differently, based on what is right - both from a law abiding and a moral perspective.



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Originally posted by Lena@Oct 29 2005, 10:00 AM

What I don't understand is why we base the running of the drug forum on the 'Sex sex sex' forum. Sex and drugs are very different things. Drugs kill, sex doesn't.



Taking drugs is against the law. So too is having underage sex. I find we often forget that giving some advice in the 'Sex sex sex' forum breaks the law. Telling young girls of 14/15 how to have sex is not something we should be doing anymore than telling people how to obtain/take drugs.



We should treat every forums differently, based on what is right - both from a law abiding and a moral perspective.



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Uhm, I might have a little different point of view on drugs here (seeing as how some drugs are actually legal down in this small country :P), but if we're gonna be talking about drug abuse in comparison to underage sex, I think we're missing the entire point. People ask for advice, if you ask me they can get it. Giving someone honest advice about sex (no matter the age) is something that isn't against the law, actually performing the act and thus breaking a law, is (d'uh).

Telling someone how to get drugs, or where to get them, is indirectly a violation of a law, seeing as how you know where to get the drugs in the first place...

Also actually sex DOES kill, AIDS is but one of the many STD's transmitted through... well... sex. And birth is the first step towards the grave anyway (yes, that sounds morbid, I know).
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Giving honest advice/information is fine. Encouraging underage sex or drug abuse is not fine, and that is the problem with the relevant forums. We seem to be encouraging an 'anything goes' attitude, and that is not what we are here for.



HELPINGteens needs to live up to its name, and not encourage things that are harmful/against the law.



Advice up to a point is good, but if people want information as to how to use illegal drugs, they can find that information elsewhere.



My thoughts.



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PS - I can see we are going to end up having some interesting discussions now we are in touch again. :)
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Originally posted by Lena@Oct 29 2005, 01:24 PM



Advice up to a point is good, but if people want information as to how to use illegal drugs, they can find that information elsewhere.



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this is what the mods of that forum are doing, hun - or so i have demanded they do...

they are supposed to be helpful about such things as when its out of the system, etc but when it comes to actually doing it - they aren't supposed to (or at least thats under the impression i am under)



but that forum has always been "loose" - like you go in there and there are soo many violations (in my eyes at least)



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Originally posted by Lena@Oct 29 2005, 11:24 AM

PS - I can see we are going to end up having some interesting discussions now we are in touch again. :)

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I'm just me, you'll just have to live with my opinions :P

Anyway, regarding the actual issue of the forums, I was just reffering to the actual breaking the law-thing. Because I don't even post/read/keep an eye on those forums in the first place.

And, as I said, I think my point of view is rather controversial according to some people... ^^;
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Originally posted by SirPostAlot+Oct 30 2005, 03:47 AM--
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this is what the mods of that forum are doing, hun - or so i have demanded they do...

they are supposed to be helpful about such things as when its out of the system, etc but when it comes to actually doing it - they aren't supposed to (or at least thats under the impression i am under)



but that forum has always been "loose" - like you go in there and there are soo many violations (in my eyes at least)



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Hmm, the mods don't seem to be living up to that. It seems we need stricter guidelines.


Originally posted by Rurouni_ryu+Oct 30 2005, 05:10 AM--
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I'm just me, you'll just have to live with my opinions :P

Anyway, regarding the actual issue of the forums, I was just reffering to the actual breaking the law-thing. Because I don't even post/read/keep an eye on those forums in the first place.

And, as I said, I think my point of view is rather controversial according to some people... ^^;

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And live with them I will, I love it when people are true to their beliefs. :) It also means I can have a decent debate. :rolleyes: :P



Controversial views aren't necessarily bad.... And as a community we need to be open to all sorts of different views. However, that doesn't mean we should break the law in being open minded.



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Lena, if you want to read all the drug forum crises topics (about changing format, taking it away, etc) just search in suggestions forums for "drug" ... you will find alot of them (most started by me probably)...



so its sorta ptless to argue about that forum - it has been debated so much its verbatim...either way its shut downa nd the forum is supposed to be run stricker but gets loose at times...



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I don't think it's pointless talking about that forum, especially since Mods think it's being runned too carelessly. I agree with Lena, the site is put here to HELP teens not encourage harmful behavior. I also agree with her about us helping under age teenagers with sex problems. True many teenagers will do what ever they want, but we should not encourage them to engage in sexual activities because of the risks that are envolled.



I'll look into some of the posts in the drug forum, go back a few pages too and see what all I can find.



When the Admins get the time though I really do think they should look at the current board rules and add/change some of them around to make this site more helpfull to the young teens in general.
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Originally posted by iHEAVENn@Nov 2 2005, 04:01 AM

When the Admins get the time though I really do think they should look at the current board rules and add/change some of them around to make this site more helpfull to the young teens in general.

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see i agree w/ this...

but i fear if we make it too censered, members will just veer toward other forums...

we can't just preach abstinance...we need to be supportive if that is the road they deside to take and do what we cna to make things safe for them...



Censership will not make us the ideal forum, it will scare many people away...



We need to realize that the majority of people here aren't "young teens" nor is that our main focus...we are mainly targeting those like 15ish+...so middle teens...younger and older are encouraged to come but we cannot baby our forums to a point just of annoyance and people leaving



(i hope that makes sence)



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